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A very interesting article, June. I've long been interested in the topic of self-publisher. You make a largely convincing argument but it would have been good if you'd backed it up with some solid facts and figures. Can you give us some examples, for instance, of well-known books or authors that were self-published? How many copies did those books sell, compared with something put out by a mainstream publisher? I'm aware, for example, that the hardback edition of a novel - even by a top-flight author such as Martin Amis - might sell fewer than 1,000 copies. And that the paperback might sell fewer than 50,000 unless it's in line for an award of captures the public imagination. How do some of the better-selling self-published tomes compare? Who has made a credible career out of being self-published? (By which I mean they have become a name recognised by the public.)

Sorry to be picky, but I think these questions need answering if you are to convince sceptics!

Roald Dahl,
Virginia Wolfe,
Thomas Hardy,
D.H. Lawrence to name but a few famous self published authors. Need I say more?

Suzie x

Roald Dahl,
Virginia Wolfe,
Thomas Hardy,
D.H. Lawrence to name but a few famous self published authors. Need I say more?

Suzie x

You had me with Roald Dahl! :)

Well, actually, I meant more modern authors who self-publish outside today's corporate publishing world. Woolf, Hardy and Lawrence were all writing at a time when being published by a mainstream publisher was not standard, compared to most of the 20th century.

I was hoping for some very recent examples (ie, within the last 5 years), given that companies such as Lulu are revolutionising self-publishing and making it easier than ever to go it alone,

But hey-ho, never mind. I was clearly asking for too much.

I think it's a very fair point - I suppose another way of supporting an argument *in favour* of self publishing is to look at the oodles of people being published by small independent publishers and basically selling very few copies. Ultimately I suppose if you considered blogging to be self-publishing then there are success stories of people getting mega money book deals - but I'm not convinced these people wouldn't have got them anyway - middle class white women obsessing over sex, romance and er, living in Northumberland.
There was a book published through Lulu last year by a collection of bloggers in aid of Comic Relief - from my knowledge it sold in days what a contact's book sold in two years. I'm sorry I don't know the exact number. But yep sales figures are always going to be the clincher in the argument. There have also been tales of self-published authors in the writing mags over the years whose works sold well enough to then be picked up by commercial publishers. I like the sound of e-books tbh.

All good points, Linda. Blogging is not really self-publishing, to my mind. Self-publicising probably and self-journalism possibly, but the books that grew out of blogs were mainstream publishing deals (albeit very successful ones, eg Belle de Jour, Tom Reynolds). What I want June to back up in her argument is some solid facts and figures about those who self-published through Lulu or similar (including own imprints) and had a runaway success or went on to be secure a deal through a mainstream publisher.

A novelist friend of mine has started republishing his backlist through self-publishing as the books had gone out of print. He's a well-known cult author who also self-published his latest title to some fair success, although he'd done a huge amount of work on MySpace and Facebook among his fans to generate presales interest.

June put forward some convincing arguments (and she doesn't really need to convince me) about self-publishing, but if she can't back it up, she won't convince the sceptical.

Have been away for a while since this article was published and been mega busy on the book promotion trail as always, but off the top of my head - Amanda Brown author of Legally Blonde was originally self published and we have all heard of that film and its follow up, also GP Taylor started his career as a self published author and is now a household name. As a non subscriber to either the Bookseller or Nielson Bookscan I don't have access to the actual sales figures, but those two names alone should be sufficiently well known for most people to sit up and take notice.

Hi June - and thanks. Judging by the fact that your book is available in more branches of Waterstones than mine is I think there's plenty for us all to think about!

Thanks June. I've not heard of Amanda Brown but obviously have heard of Legally Blonde, thanks to its success as a film. That's really interesting to learn of the level of success achievable by modern self-publishing.

Absolutely - and I had an order for 70 books this week from an unknown source - one problem with POD is that you are not the account holder with the wholesaler (in my case Gardners), but the publisher is instead - so I can't log in to find out where these books went. For an order this size though it has to be one of the chain stores .... possibly Borders. I would love to know who though !

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